Iwan Roberts on Fisher, Norwich facts, MoTD dark horse

He came through the ranks at then non-league Bromley and it was just two years ago that he was playing in the Isthmian League with Cray Wanderers.

He’s been at Norwich since last summer – and now look at him! A first team regular and now an international call.

I love it when this sort of thing happens, because I think what happens when you're associated with a good club from an early age and you come through the system, sometimes you get a bit spoiled, you take things for granted, as if it's always going to be like that.

Kellen played in the National League for Bromley, and that is tough. I remember when I was 16, playing for a team called Harlech in the Caernarfon and District League. It was a men's team, our manager was the PE teacher at my school who helped me a long, long way in my career and he used to give some of the lads from my school, if they were good enough, a chance to play in the Harlech men's team.

That was hard - it was sink or swim, and I think, looking back, that was one of the best things that ever happened to me; to compete against grown men at 16 years of age toughened me right up.

Kellen has come from non league - whether he was training twice a week or whether they were professional at Bromley I'm not too sure – but he has come to a great club with magnificent facilities and I get the feeling that he's going to grab the opportunity with both hands, because he's seen the other side of the game.

It's a great example for other youngsters in slightly different positions, when someone doesn't think they’re quite good enough to make the grade and they have to take a couple of steps down to play regularly. The door isn't always closed. It's just one opinion of many.

Since Kellen has got in the team, he's been a breath of fresh air. He's not overawed by anything, he's doesn't look out of place, he's been great down that right hand side, he's great getting forward, he's got good energy which you would expect from such a young lad.

But I just think because of where he's come from to where he is now, he appreciates everything that he's earned. I think he's earned his call-up to the under 21s.

And of course, big clubs can scoop up all the best young players. Especially the Premier League clubs - their academies are just full of youngsters, of which 95pc have got no chance of playing for that first team. You get two or three from that system then you've done well. You are not going to get many more than that, in my opinion.

I just think you cannot beat playing first team football at a young age, whether like me in a local league in north Wales at 16, or whether it's Kellen in the tough going of the National League. They take no prisoners. They see this young lad coming in and want to teach him a lesson, but he's taken everything that's been thrown at him.

He's not the biggest but he's not intimidated by anything, he doesn’t mind a challenge. He has a bit of fire in his belly which everybody in whatever walk of life needs.

He was a bit of an unknown when he first came in. Obviously the club got Jack Stacey when Max Aarons went the other way, but now he's made that right back spot his own.

And in Jack Stacey you're talking about a player who has played in the Premier League and played plenty of games in the Championship. That's when people have to be patient to get that chance – and when you get it, you have to make the most of it.

You've got to make yourself undroppable for whoever's place you've taken to have an excuse from the manager to put him back, and that's what he's done.

Give us a break

I was looking at Norwich’s results before the last international break – they won 10 points from a possible 12.

Since that break they have won three points in the last six games, losing the last three – the first time they've done that in over 12 months.

The home record was always going to go sooner or later, and when something like that goes you sit down together and you say, ‘right, we’re going to start another home run like that'.

Inevitably, someone's going to come down and catch Norwich on an off day – it was probably the best time for Bristol City to come down to Carrow Road last week, what with all of the injury problems.

But we're not making excuses. They are facts.

Angus Gunn (Image: Daniel Hambury) When you've got the number of quality players out through injury that Norwich have, you cannot ignore that. Angus Gunn, Kenny McLean, Josh Sargent, Marcelino Nunez – you can't just say City should have people to come in and replace them. You can’t at this level, the club can’t afford to.

You take four or five starters out of Burnley, or Leeds, or Sheffield United - I don't think they've got the strength in depth to fill those spaces like that.

Vital run

I look at the next five games: West Brom, drawn six of their last seven, they’ve got the fifth worst home record in the division, they can't score at home. Then you have Plymouth at home, who are 18th, Luton at home who are 21st, QPR away, who are 23rd and Pompey away, who are 24th.

So the next five games before Christmas are so important because they give you a chance to get back up there. You’ll be hoping that two or three of the missing players might be back, although obviously you’ve got to rule out Sargent until the New Year.

But you hope he will have a better stronger squad to pick from for the West Brom game than what he did for the Bristol City game.

Ok, Norwich are 14th now but there are reasons for that. I look at the next five games - West Brom will be tough but I think that spell gives the club a great opportunity to get back to winning ways and get some good points on the board and get themselves back up towards that top six before the busy festive period.

On the flip side, if you don't pick the points I think they should do, does it then mean that top six could be a thing of the past? Because of who they're up against, I think it is vital.

Striker light

Josh Sargent (Image: Paul Chesterton/Focus Images Ltd) With Josh Sargent out, I think City have got to be scouring the list of free agents – it would be naive not to really.

But probably every club in the Championship has scoured the earth for a centre forward. They are few and far between; gone are the days where centre forwards are getting 20, 25 goals a season. If a centre forward gets 10 goals now he's had a good season!

When I went to Huddersfield and I was only young, it was my first move, from Watford, I got 15 goals. Not that I thought that was a good season – but I got absolutely slaughtered for it. You score 15 goals now, you're a club legend.

Teemu Pukki is the best example you can give - he was a free transfer.

But they will be few and far between, but the recruitment team have got to earn their corn now and look everywhere to get a centre forward in and help the man out.

This is where if you're head of recruitment, if you've got your team around you, this is where you earn your money.

My MoTD dark horse

Owain Tudur Jones (Image: Newsquest Library)

So Gary Lineker is leaving as presenter of Match of the Day – and all the speculation is who succeeds him.

Mark Chapman appears to be the favourite and he is good, he does a good job on Match of the Day II.

You know one person who is a really good presenter on TV? Owain Tudur Jones.

He works for S4C – he does one of their most popular programmes, it’s on at 7pm every night, called Heno, which is 'night' in English. He presents that, with another presenter, three times a week.

His career – which included a stint at Norwich - was cut short by injuries. He’s a really intelligent lad. The thing about him – and people might laugh – he doesn’t need an autocue, he remembers everything.

They could do a lot worse.