Iwan Roberts on why Grant Hanley is a bigger miss for Norwich

He knows that - you just can't have that sort of run. They are already 14 points behind Ipswich, who have a game in hand.

City went into the first international break fifth in the league, having been second before the defeat at Rotherham. Now they are 14th. They are still just three points off the play-offs, but while they're defending like they are, they're going to finish in the bottom half, simple as that.

This time last year, under Dean Smith, after 13 games, Norwich were seven points better off - and people wanted him out. They had 24 points after 13 games. They've got 17 from 13 games now.

Can they afford to change? Can they afford not to?

I don't think either full-back’s strengths are defending, especially Dimi Giannoulis. I mean, what he's doing for the goal on Tuesday night? I don't know.

Look at the Leeds goals. It's similar – City were in a great position in that game but they conceded one from a corner because they fell asleep - no one closes Crysencio Summerville down. Shane Duffy's own goal was bit unlucky – there wasn’t a lot he could do. The third goal in the last minute - they've got a free-kick halfway inside Leeds' half and they've put a long ball in the box, they've not won the first contact, Leeds counter-attacked and scored. But once again, if you don't get tight to people, if you give quality players like Summerville time and space, they will punish you.

David Wagner has played Gabriel Sara as a defensive midfielder. I don't think he can do that. You have got to get him further up the pitch.

Are the wingers working hard enough? I think Onel Hernandez does, but I think he lacks in other areas. Jonathan Rowe got another goal against Boro, but does he cover as much? Does he give Jack Stacey the cover that he needs? I don't know, but it has to be sorted.

Only the top two teams in the division, Leicester and Ipswich, have scored more goals than Norwich. But Norwich have the second worst defensive record.

It’s clear to see where the problem is and the talk of City struggling because of injuries to Ashley Barnes and Josh Sargent is just papering over the cracks. You can say whatever you like about Sargent and Barnes missing. That's not the issue. It's clear and obvious where the issue is. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to know.

Ben Gibson and Duffy are too similar - they're both big, strong and commanding in the air, but they lack pace.

It’s the injury to Grant Hanley that has caused the biggest problem. Over the years he's got some unfair criticism, but sometimes you don’t realise just what someone gives a team until he's not there. And there's a massive hole without him.

He’s on the way back from one of the worst injuries a sports person can get – a snapped Achilles. And his absence has exposed a lack of lack of strength and depth in that position.

I saw a tweet on social media and some fans said they'd rather see some of the under 23s, like Jaden Warner, play.

I think you have got to give them a chance. You can't keep turning out the same old stuff, and conceding goal after goal.

Sir Bobby

Football lost a great man with the passing of Sir Bobby Charlton.

I never met the man but obviously I've seen highlights of him. It's hard to pick out his actual position – I don't think he was a centre forward, back then I think you’d describe him as an attacking midfielder.

The goals he scored! He had an incredible left foot and an incredible right foot - the power that he used to get in his shots was incredible.

Only Ryan Giggs has played more games for Manchester United, only Wayne Rooney has scored more goals. He scored two goals in the old European Cup final, in 1968, against Benfica.

He is an icon of British football. You only ever heard good things about him. People always say he was a gentleman, quite down to earth. He didn’t really enjoy the limelight. I think he and his brother Jack were working class people who come from the north east. It was a sad day. Obviously, Jack Charlton died more than three years ago with dementia. Too many of the players who won the 1966 World Cup final have died through dementia.

Black Cats threat

I saw Sunderland at Leicester in midweek and one thing is for certain, they are going to provide very difficult opposition for Norwich this weekend.

I know Sunderland have now lost their last three, but they are a good side. They're the best side I've seen at the King Power this season because they went at Leicester, they didn't sit back, they squeezed and pressed and caused them problems.

Nine of the Sunderland starting XI was 24 or younger, seven of the XI were 23 or younger. They're a young, energetic side .

They have a young lad in midfield, Dan Neill, who for me is one of the best midfielders in the Championship, he won’t be there long. Patrick Roberts – who played for Norwich - played well at Leicester, and they have Jack Clarke who is very good.

They play with a really high tempo so if you don't match that, they will turn you over.

Tony Mowbray (Image: PA Images)

Tony Mowbray is doing a top job up there and proving that at 59 years old, anyone who labels him a dinosaur just because he has been around for a while, doesn’t know what they are talking about.

I think that's the tendency now, when you see someone who has been in the game for a long time then they’re old fashioned or they've got old methods. Sunderland haven't got old methods I tell you.

And if you don’t match their work rate, you are in trouble.